Released on Trace Elements in 1987 and later released on Further with a different cover and slightly different artwork. The Further version (with the Jaguar guitar on the cover) is out of print. The Trace Elements version is out of print but still available from Trace Elements.

Band of Susans on this album were:
Robert Poss: Guitar, vocals
Susan Stenger: Bass, vocals
Susan Tallman: Guitar
Susan Lyall: Guitar
Ron Spitzer: Drums
Alva Rogers: Vocals

Words and music by Robert Poss
Cover design: Amy Bernstein
Photography: Philip Newton
Recorded August 1986 at Calliope Productions, New York City
Engineers: Billy Hemy, Bob Coulter, Robert Power
Mastering: Trutone

Tracks:

Hope Against Hope, You Were An Optimist, Sometimes, Where Have All The Flowers Gone